america is in more violence prone society than any european today is. a lot of that has to do with their history and makeup that mentality. but yes, 30,000 is way too many and 13,000 deaths is way too many that we have to discuss as many weeks as we can to bring it down. i don't think were ever going to eliminate it entirely though. >> host: one of the things you suggest talking about stricter penalties and we've covered both of those. you mentioned licensing and registration. we touched on that briefly, but that is something that does generally get people's attention. >> guest: i would go back to the history and people want to say we've heard he had gun registration. it's just been on a local level. the second amendment and court decisions surrounding it make it clear that the federal government should be the agency that registers guns. in fact, laws congress has passed forbidding it. some states permit registering guns. why is that? it's been a thing. it's part of the hysteria created by the extreme gun rights groups about any gun regulation is the fi